Stephan Miller

06 Sep, 2007

What To Do When You Forget What Romance Is

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My wife has put up with a lot. A lot. I am not a easy person to live with. I didn’t start this whole internet marketing thing until we were about to have our son. Yes, I dabbled. Yes, I put some things up on Ebay. But that just wasn’t going to cut it with a family of four. I was working a construction job and there was no way that was going to bring home enough for all of us. So she stood by me when I said I could do this. She stood by me when I said I needed more time at home to try to make even more money online. She had faith in me when I moved the whole family cross country to my hometown where the cost of living was supposed to be lower.
That move turned out to be a bad choice. You get what you pay for. You get bad schools. You get bad roads. You get a neighborhood full of people that you would never associate with. Did she blame me for this? No.
Now I tell her when need to make even more to get out of where we are to a better place. Does she understand? Yes. Do I understand what all this has done to her and to us? I tell her I do, but I am slow to learn. She is a much more patient, trusting, understanding person than I am.
We met online. Not through Match.com or anything like that. We met through a social network. We chatted for months and then she came to see me. We have been married now for 3 years. I would have never met the most perfect person any other way. And she it perfect. It’s me that needs the work.
I love her and she loves me. We both know that. But the nights of me staying up late to get a handle on work and the weekends of telling the kids,"No, daddy has to get some work done." has done some damage to this love. I have forgotten how to bring it back.
Plus I am paranoid. One bad day of sales and I’m Chicken Little. The next day, I spend even more time here with this stupid machine.
The picture is one of my favorites. Shortly after we met, we took a motorcycle trip to the Salt River Valley. Our relationship just came naturally back then. We had just fallen in love. Every worry and issue could be conquered by that fact. The worries of the world were farther away and when they got close, we could handle them.
But the worries of a new family and bills to pay clouds what feelings and inclinations that would have come naturally in the past. When I was single, I read all the books you could think of on "How to Get the Girl." Because I was, to make a long story short, a nerd. But now, I am confused and lost. I know some things not to do, for example:

  • "Here’s some flowers", as I try to take the $5 grocery store price tag off that I missed.
  • Pots and pans for an anniversary present.
  • Complain about working in an office every day, when she deals with a two year old monster all day.
  • Spend most nights working until midnight, when she goes to bed at nine.
  • Hire a babysitter and then spend the time at my parents house.
  • "I don’t have time to study a book on romance."

Yeah, I can keep adding. But it’s the "what to do" I want to learn. I am trying. I will start reading something other than the latest issue of Wired. Here are some posts I found:

To Be Continued…
Nobody Blogs About This.
Strange.

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16 Responses to "What To Do When You Forget What Romance Is"

1 | Your goddess of a wife

September 6th, 2007 at 5:58 pm

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What?!
That price tag you pulled that time was 5 bucks!!
Sheesh! ;)
I love you Handsome.
I think this is what marriage is all about, learning, and trying, and re working things, and tweeking until one of us dies.

I remember recently my Mother telling me when my Dad was out messing around in the garage, basically doing absolutely nothing and bitching, how she just ignores it now, because the fight isn’t worth it, they’ve been married 54 years.

I think some of the best advice I ever heard about marriage came from an older woman named Juanita I worked with at a Flower Shop, we called her Boo.
Her husband had died a year before I met her, and she told me….

“The problem with your generation is you think it’s easy, you think after a few rough months it’s time to toss in the towel, you think you’re supposed to feel blissfully in love every day.Well let me tell you something, My husband and I went years without knowing one another, me busy parenting, him moving up the career ladder, in those years, we passed like ships in the night, and I had to look in the mirror every day and remind myself, he was my husband, and I was his wife, and that was the vow we made, so I couldn’t walk away because things were the worse part of “for better of for worse” right now.Sometimes you won’t like your partner, sometimes you won’t recognize them, and often you’ll feel left behind or side tracked or simply bored as hell, but you have to know they are going through the same things, and you have to know that if you wait out the downs, the ups come naturally.

When that was all over, and he retired, and we were Grandparents, we started travelling, and laughing again, and looked at our grown children, now parents, and fell deeper in love than ever, our lives were bliss, and looking back, those dark times, he really was all that held me together, that reminder I’d say in the mirror was also my way of affirming our love.My way of getting me back to the feeling we had after first meeting, my way of pulling together the big picture.

When you find someone you love, don’t expect bliss, and beauty every day, when you say I do, real life starts again, and you know what sweetie, real life is a gory, long, dirty and bumpy road,there is beautiful scenery, and wonderful surprises around corners,moments when the sun shines through the tree limbs and you think you found heaven and there’s roadkill and the smell of skunk…just as a good marriage is”–I think she was very very wise.

I promise to never forget you are mine, and that I am yours, and that we vowed to stick it out because we loved each other enough to make the promise of “forever”.I’ll take the skunk smell, because the glimpse of heaven is worth wearing noseplugs.

I think, as long as two people can talk, and really be honest with each other, and really remember what it’s all about, they’re bound to be okay.

Yeah life gets in the way,and kids and work are exhausting, and often frustrating, and sometimes simply a reason to go postal, but under it all, we are doing it to have our golden years together, to look back over our accomplishments and our downfalls, and share that road we walked together.

Plus we get to spend the kids inheritance as a get back! ;)
Party Time!!!

I love you.

2 | Stephan Miller

September 6th, 2007 at 6:01 pm

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Love you too, baby.

3 | Matt

September 7th, 2007 at 7:08 pm

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DUde,

Can you clone your wife, or at least have her come teach mine?

4 | Sheryl Kurland

September 7th, 2007 at 7:24 pm

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5 | Laura M. Brotherson

September 7th, 2007 at 8:31 pm

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You may be surprised to learn that your blog (specifically this post) was sent out in a Smart Marriages e-newsletter today. It’s great to see people blogging about how to build strong marriages. Good luck to you both! It was fun to hear from both of you.

You might find some additional ideas for creating “romance” on our website http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com and/or our “Strengthening Marriage Blog” http://www.strengtheningmarriage.com/blog/.

6 | Janice Hoffman

September 8th, 2007 at 3:26 am

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This couple, on their own, have grown into the knowledge and reality that relationships aren’t supposed to be perfect all the time. Today, we want what we want and we want it yesterday, or at the very least, today. Being able to ride out a storm together, being able to be still when we want to scream, is what makes reaping the harvest of our patience so wonderful. It is what builds a strong foundation for a good marriage.

My book, Relationship Rules, gives men and women 12 specific strategies for keeping the passion alive in a relationship. This particular couple have figured it out on their own. They are great role models for what others have done and what is possible. I hope this circulates and gives other couples hope.

7 | Stephan Miller

September 8th, 2007 at 4:04 am

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I am very lucky.
Now you can see one of the reason that I love her. She can paint with words. She has the same love of them that I do. I speak very little face to face, even really to her.
I live so much in my head. But this is how we met, speaking to each over what many people see as an impersonal internet.
But she is learning to do this blogging thing along with me. I love it.
But to me and to her it was where we both became who we really were. Words that were hard to verbalize can more naturally through fingers than through sound.
So this is like going back to the place where we had our first date.
And last night was great. Many memories of the days we had when we first met cam back to me. I love you baby.
And thanks for all the responses. It is hard to find people who understand this lifestyle in this part of the country.

8 | Chuck Hagemeier

September 10th, 2007 at 5:25 pm

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What a wonderful testimony for our marriage enrichment group.

9 | Marko Pyhajarvi

September 10th, 2007 at 7:49 pm

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Hi Stephan,

this was a fantastic post! It is great to see someone blogging about this and with his own name. Blogging personal issues cannot be easy, I appreciate your courage.

I feel much the same with you Stephan. I am a bit “workaholic” and I have got some difficulties with my wife, just because I am more married with my work than with her. Many times she says “why should I talk to you because while I talk you just think about your company and your business”. Yeah, she’s right. I have done much wrong and I have forgotten my family many times, but I appreciate that she stands it and stays with me. I need to concentrate not to work too much, but I have to say I’m not always successful with that.

Keep on posting this stuff! This was great, absolutely. I’ll subscribe to your feed and will read more your posts. All the best for your life. You seem to have a great wife.

10 | Stephan Miller

September 11th, 2007 at 11:32 am

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Yes, I know about being a workaholic. It’s like an endless game of catch up. I am trying to make a deeper surge into affiliate marketing so that I can do it full time.
My wife supports me in it. And most of the time, when we fight, it’s my fault. Once I give up on trying to be right, it gets better.
I get trapped by the details so many times that she is the only one who can get me back. It’s not always pretty.

11 | Marko Pyhajarvi

September 11th, 2007 at 11:49 am

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This is very difficult for entrepreneurs, just because in most cases the entrepreneurs have to work hard during the first few years. Especially if you have your day job and you need time to get your business rolling. This is exactly my situation. I work 9-5 and after that I usually work until 2 am. I wake up 6.30 am. I am a living dead, a real zombie. Well, I know it pays back, has paid earlier as well. It’s just difficult for my family to stand it. Some people call it passion, I call it addiction. It is fantastic to work hard, I do enjoy it, but it also makes me feel guilty because I do neglet my family too often. “Sad but true” says Metallica.

12 | Stephan Miller

September 11th, 2007 at 4:44 pm

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Yes, it is hard. And I know what to do. In fact, if I could translate thought into words, I could keep up with writing on 20 blogs, probably 5 posts a day. And if I could translate ideas into websites, I would be retired by now.

And every now and then I go into a panic. My extra income from affiliate marketing has been stable over the last tow and half years or so, which helps. But now it seems to be the same treadmill as anything else.

Try something new and not have enough time to keep the old going or focus on the old and never make more than just enough to support my family while I do both a 9 to 5 and this.

2 to 3 hours a day to make a living. For the people who are already in and know everything they are doing. But it is hard to make sense of all methods you hear of.

I think I am just going to write when I get the chance, here, other blogs, and a few tests on Squidoo.

I have partially automated the methods that have been making money to free more time up. So that helps.

Hey Marko, if you have any pointers other than staying up until 2am, let me know. That’s the same method I’ve been using. :)

13 | Real Romance : Men Are Easy by Lynn Rasmussen

September 13th, 2007 at 8:20 am

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14 | Marko Pyhajarvi

September 13th, 2007 at 9:27 am

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I agree with you Stephan. This is definately not easy, but most probably rewarding. This is a very typical picture of entrepreneurship. You need to work pretty hard to reach a point in which you can free more time to your family and hobbies. There is just one thing that I would like to point out. Patience. We gotta be patient and we’ll make it.

Keep on working Stephan, you’ll make it! It’s great that you have a good wife supporting you.

Stephan, what do you mean with your question in the end? I just didn’t understand it. I’m sorry, I’m Finn. English is not my mother tongue (it’s Finnish).

15 | 21stcenturyman

December 22nd, 2007 at 9:17 am

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What can I say? I’ve been married for almost 14 years, working at home for 8 and I still have the same problems.
When you say: “I get trapped by the details so many times that…” this is exactly what happens to me most of the time, and it’s a productivity killer. You must spend some quality time with your family, this is why you’re working so hard in the first place, right? Funny, I should take my own advice. :)
My younger son is just 10 months old and he forces me to stop, he doesn’t understand “later” or “I have to work”. He demands attention!
You have a perfect life, just think about it and enjoy it. And I will do the same right now! :))

21stcenturyman’s last blog post..By: 21stcenturyman

16 | Stephan Miller

December 22nd, 2007 at 9:42 pm

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Some times are harder than others, but I think I keep a good balance. I can’t wait until the day that I am home full time.

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