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><channel><title>Stephan Miller &#187; marketing</title> <atom:link href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/tag/marketing/feed/" rel="self" type="application/rss+xml" /><link>http://www.stephanmiller.com</link> <description>Building Websites, Traffic, and Income</description> <lastBuildDate>Tue, 20 Sep 2011 13:59:15 +0000</lastBuildDate> <language>en</language> <sy:updatePeriod>hourly</sy:updatePeriod> <sy:updateFrequency>1</sy:updateFrequency> <generator>http://wordpress.org/?v=3.3.1</generator> <xhtml:meta xmlns:xhtml="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml" name="robots" content="noindex" /> <item><title>What the Hell Happened to My Ecommerce Posts</title><link>http://www.stephanmiller.com/what-the-hell-happen-to-my-ecommerce-posts/</link> <comments>http://www.stephanmiller.com/what-the-hell-happen-to-my-ecommerce-posts/#comments</comments> <pubDate>Thu, 15 May 2008 14:44:00 +0000</pubDate> <dc:creator>admin</dc:creator> <category><![CDATA[Ecommerce]]></category> <category><![CDATA[category structure]]></category> <category><![CDATA[competitor]]></category> <category><![CDATA[marketing]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SEO]]></category> <category><![CDATA[SERP]]></category><guid
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class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p>I rank pretty high for specific terms when it comes to ecommerce, even though I haven&#8217;t written a post in a while. I have learned a lot through running an ecommerce site. In fact, it has helped with my blogging and internet marketing more than you can imagine and vice versa.</p><p>I am surprised at how many techniques and methods to promote sites don&#8217;t cross boundaries. Bloggers have proprietary methods. Ecommerce webmasters have proprietary methods. Old school internet marketers have proprietary methods. I just refused to see the lines and used what worked. So if you don&#8217;t have an ecommerce site, this post may help you anyway. One of the best ways to make inroads in a industry is refuse to play by the rules and bring some rules from related ones. Make your mantra &quot;use what works&quot; rather than &quot;this is how it&#8217;s done&quot;.</p><p>The boss has the internet bug. So much so, he sold the other part of the business. At one time, we installed doors and windows locally. But after a year with me messing with the site, it is now the main source of income and the other part of the business is going byebye.</p><p>So a few more tips that I can think along with a refresher on past tips, because the importance of the past tips have become even more apparent now with more time.</p><h3>Build a Good Category Structure</h3><p>I didn&#8217;t learn about silo sites until lately, but I think this falls under the same category. You have a better chance of ranking for &quot;blue mp3 players&quot; if you have a page dedicated to it. If your mp3 players are all jumbled together, you are now competing against other&#8217;s trying to rank for mp3 players.</p><p><a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/get-your-site-out-there-part-1-of-the-ecommerce-seach-engine-optimization-series/" target="_blank">Just group like things together</a>. It&#8217;s that easy to begin with. What make&#8217;s sense? What will help customers not have to use the search box? Look at Ebay&#8217;s categories or other sites in your niche. If you follow a route that make&#8217;s it easy for your customers, you have naturally optimized your site for the search engines. Your site will be separated into very tight vertical categories with like items all together. A person looking for a &quot;blue mp3 player&quot; will be greeted to a page where that phrase occurs ten times just because you created a good structure.</p><p>You can question where to break the categories. With the mp3 player example, no one may search for &quot;blue mp3 players&quot; specifically. They may search by features or size. Use your stats to guide you once you start getting traffic. If someone is finding your site by searching for &quot;4 GB mp3 player&quot;, maybe the structure needs to be based on size.</p><p>To tell you the truth, I like a loose category structure better, more like a tagging system. That way categories can cross lines. You can have a &quot;blue mp3 player&quot; page and a &quot;4 GB mp3 player&quot; page.</p><h3>Get Everything You Can Online</h3><p>I believe in a shotgun approach to SEO especially when you either have a lot of content or a lot of products. <a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/uploading-product-data-fast-and-getting-your-vendors-to-help-part-2-ecommerce-seo/" target="_blank">A huge site gathers a lot of longtail hits</a>. Over 17,000 phrases were used by our visitors to reach one of our sites last month. None of these could have been guessed beforehand. So throw up the site and throw as much inventory as you can at it. Then, see what you get. We have about 4000 products online with at least that much to go.</p><h3>A Bird in the Hand</h3><p>After the products are up or during putting them online, get links to your site in any way that you can. You are getting links to raise your whole site up en masse in the search engine results.</p><p>Don&#8217;t chase terms until you start having them come in especially if you have never dealt with keywords. You have no idea how the people buying your products will search until they do. I messed around with SEO and affiliate marketing before I did any ecommerce work. I had no clue.</p><p>When they do come in, take a top down approach and start <a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/optimizing-for-hits-you-already-get/" target="_blank">bumping your site up for the terms you actually get hits for</a>. I almost came up with a formula for why this works called PKEI or personal keyword effectivity index and it goes like this:</p><p>PKEI = (Amount of hits you get for the term) X (Your site&#8217;s position in the SERP&#8217;s for the term)</p><p>It&#8217;s not that straightforward but that&#8217;s the way it works. I wanted to write a post not work out the formula. If you get 100 hits a month for &quot;green ipod&quot; and your position is 10 in Google, that 100 hits is hiding a lot of potential. Moving to number one will blow you away. The move from #2 to #1 is rather dramatic also but not as much. And if you are on the second page of the results and still get a decent amount of hits, moving to the first page will open up the flood gates.</p><p>Of course, this has to be balanced with your actual ability to increase a page&#8217;s rank in the search engines. If you are on page ten and you still get hits for a term, yes, that term has potential, but can you move it that far. It&#8217;s not really until you get on the first page that the changes start becoming dramatic.</p><ul><li><a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/optimizing-for-hits-you-already-get/" target="_blank">Optimizing Your Site For Hits You Already Get Part 1</a></li><li><a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/optimizing-for-hits-you-already-get-part-2/" target="_blank">Optimizing Your Site For Hits You Already Get Part 2</a></li></ul><h3>Become Your Own Competitor</h3><p>We have two sites that we sell on. For certain specific terms, our pages are the #1,#2,#3, and #4 results for the term. The first time I saw it, I laughed my ass off. We pretty much blanketed the first page.</p><p>The second site began because of a different product line worthy of it&#8217;s own site, even though it was the same type product. The results were an accident.</p><h3>Don&#8217;t Just Sell</h3><p>Write articles and put them on your site. Add a blog. Do something to get the people who are looking for answer&#8217;s to a question your product solves to buy.</p><p>Ecommerce software is behind the times. I am going to tell you that right now. There is no WordPress easiness to them. There is no SEO easiness to them without editing a mass of files. And you are basically stuck with the structure.</p><p>A blog in a subdirectory or subdomain lets you play a little. The amount of tweaking you can do to a product listing or category structure is limited. Use the blog as a strategic tool to bring in hits and direct search engine traffic.</p><h3>Who Exactly Are Your Competitors</h3><p>A great question to ask. We started out thinking that locksmiths and window installers anywhere were our competitors. Not so. We sell parts and we sell them to installers just as much a do-it-yourselfers. So we built a site connected to ours where installers can list their businesses. It helps them. It helps us. And it helps customers who bought a part and have no clue what to do with it.</p><p>And a lot of the times, your vendor is not your competitor. If you sell a lot of their products, give them a call and tell them a link from their site will help you sell more of their products.</p><h3>Mimic More Competitive Industries</h3><p>If it was easy to get your site where it is, it&#8217;s not going to be for long. And you have just learned that there is really not much to learn from your direct competitors. Follow them so far. See where they get their links.</p><p>But then choose another industry. As an affiliate, I always followed porn, online gambling and home loans to name a few. Not that I was going to promote those products. But I figured if I used their techniques to promote what I was promoting, I would be ahead of affiliates in my niche.</p><h3>Be an Early Adopter</h3><p>There are new technologies coming out daily. You can be the first or you can cry when you are the last. Just because your niche is not tech related does not mean that the cutting edge technologies won&#8217;t help you. Take a few leaps.</p><div
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class="addthis_counter addthis_pill_style"></a></div><p>If you know your niche, that&#8217;s basically all you have to look at when you are searching for ways to monetize a site, along with &quot;how big is the cut&quot;.</p><p>I didn&#8217;t start in internet marketing. I started before I had a computer in my teens with &quot;Make Money at Home&quot; offers. I never fell for any of them enough to sign up, but I got myself on every list I could. I would get an offer and follow the money trail in my mind. I realized why most MLM products are so expensive. Because everyone and his brother gets a cut. I approached it from the mentality of someone just getting an entry level job and telling his boss, &quot;I want your job.&quot;</p><h3>Your Own Product</h3><p><a
href="http://www.stephanmiller.com/blog-monetization-strategies/" target="_blank">In my last post</a>, I forgot to mention that probably the best way to monetize a site is with your own product. That way the only person who gets a cut is the payment processor. And with digital products like software and ebooks, there is no overhead once the product is finished, except for updates. Plus, if you sign up some affiliates, you don&#8217;t even have to cover the marketing. Of course, affiliates get a cut now. But it is much better to get 50% of the profit from 100 people promoting your product than 100% of the profit from doing all the work yourself.</p><h3>Affiliate Programs</h3><p><img
onError="javascript: wp_broken_images = window.wp_broken_images || function(){}; wp_broken_images(this);"  width="141" height="211" align="left" alt="cdnow__1-4" src="http://www.stephanmiller.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/8/files/2008/02/cdnow-1-4.jpg" /> Affiliate programs were the first way the average person could get online and start making some money and I bet that some of those people who signed up for the first affiliate programs are currently deciding in which one of their five houses they will be spending the summer in.</p><p>You have to investigate affiliate programs to see who gets cuts. With most digital products, only the product vendor, the payment processor and you get a cut. And usually the average cut you will get is close to 50%. Digital products are unique in that the break even point for the vendor who created the product could be only a few sales in, yet people are willing to pay $100 a pop years after he has paid off his house with the sales. Digital products solve problems.</p><h3>Hard Products</h3><p>With hard product affiliate programs, you have to go all the way back to the person that mined the silicon for the computer chips, but not always. Some markets, usually the type you see in MLM&#8217;s like herbal supplements, will give you the same cut as digital products. They no longer have to pay off everyone and his brother. Only you, the affiliate.</p><p><img
onError="javascript: wp_broken_images = window.wp_broken_images || function(){}; wp_broken_images(this);"  width="300" height="200" align="right" alt="LB200710083" src="http://www.stephanmiller.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/8/files/2008/02/lb200710083.jpg" /> Then there are leads, which is a different animal altogether. You get paid a flat rate for someone to sign up for something. Usually they don&#8217;t have to pay anything to do so. And the cuts are harder to see, since the company paying you is playing the cell phone company trick. We will give you this phone, but at the end of two years, you will have paid us many times the price of this free phone. So they pay you the affiliate hoping to make it up in the end. And they always do. If not, the amount they pay you will adjust to make everything profitable.</p><p>You have to watch affiliate programs sometimes though. A lot of the products you can promote through Amazon can be promoted through each companies own affiliate program without Amazon taking their hefty cut first. But there is something to be said about the automation Amazon provides.</p><p>When we move to CPM (getting paid a flat rate for every 1000 visitors) and CPC (getting paid for every click), your cut really starts getting smaller.</p><h3>CPM is Crap</h3><p>CPM is crap. Let me repeat that. CPM is crap. CPM is for people that have so much traffic that they don&#8217;t know what to do with it, so they sign up for CPM programs because they don&#8217;t want to screw with it. CPM is the model of huge companies. If you are the biggest computer maker in the world, you can afford to make only $1 profit from each computer if you are selling a billion computers a year.</p><p>Let me put it in other words. If you have a site that can make good money from CPM, you are probably not reading this sentence. CPM is shotgun marketing. Throw hundreds of ads at the wall for cheap and see what sticks. I have been on the other side of this equation a few times.</p><p>You pay something crazy like $2 for every thousand visitors who see your ad which you think is a deal. Chances are that less than 1% of the people will click the ad. Of those people, you are lucky to get 3%. So by paying $2, you may only get one sale. The prices paid for this type of advertising is not going up. If anything, it&#8217;s going down as advertisers get more savvy with their money. Not every advertiser is a lawyer with 40% commissions to throw around. Some are like me, affiliate marketers, who still have other people waiting for their cuts after I make a sale.</p><p>And, of course, the company that these ads are generated by, (i.e. Adwords), get their cut too, with the average being around 50% of what the advertiser is willing to pay.</p><p>As a publisher, you feel like the pizza delivery guy who gets a 25 cent tip after delivering 100 pizzas to the Lions Club.</p><h3>CPC is not much better</h3><p>CPC is about the same, but sometimes you can pick some winning clicks by focusing on certain topics and subjects or by signing up for a new program where the advertisers are still throwing money away.</p><p>It&#8217;s about the same, because all the same cuts are taken out. And if everything were balanced, CPM and CPC would be the same price at the end. Holes get plugged. If advertisers discover that CPM is cheaper through a system, a bunch will move in that direction, which will cause the CPC ROI to increase and send advertisers in that direction. An endless cycle that results in a net balance.</p><p>The more people involved in an advertising system, the less room for runaway profits. New systems like AdBrite and Bidvertiser offer better CPC payouts compared to Adwords. I have tested them. But they are still in their wild west phase. Advertisers overspending in a system they are just learning. Not enough sites in the system to have real variety, so all the advertisers are bidding on the same limited amount of sites. These programs will either level out or fade away.</p><h3><img
onError="javascript: wp_broken_images = window.wp_broken_images || function(){}; wp_broken_images(this);"  width="240" height="360" align="left" alt="Butcher" src="http://www.stephanmiller.com/wp-content/blogs.dir/8/files/2008/02/butcher.jpg" /> And Optimizers</h3><p>Oh, my God. They had to take the cuts one step further. There are currently a few sites in beta that optimize your CPC ads for you, testing and running the most profitable ones. They are free in beta. But soon they will be taking their cut, about the 400th cut in that money line. Yes, they optimize your ads so you make more money and if you already make a lot from CPC it&#8217;s worth it. But if you have 100 subscribers, don&#8217;t bother.</p><h3>And Masqueraders</h3><p>There are few widget ads companies out there. I am not sure of their actual inner workings. I am planning a WordPress plugin and system that will take them out of the equation for bloggers who want to get their hands dirty. People are getting paid 30 cents a click on hard product ads. Better than Google, but not even close to the average 10% commission you can get from a sale.</p><h3>Wild Cards</h3><p>Paid reviews and text link ads are a different animal.</p><p>Text link ads have more value than just for advertising. They can actually improve rankings in search engines for the advertiser. Currently I think a lot of these are underpriced due to the &quot;Google is going to find out&quot; scare. And this is a game to be played by experts, not that I am at text link ads. I am just learning this one myself.</p><p>With paid reviews, you are also walking a fine line with Google also. And depending on who you go through, the cuts that everyone takes varies. But with newer sites, the promotion value of being in a system outweighs the cut.</p><p>When you are up to the &quot;guru&quot; stage, like John Chow, you really don&#8217;t need a program to go through. When the price for one post starts hitting the hundreds, you are not only getting paid to get the word out about something, you are getting paid because &quot;you&quot; got the word out about something.</p><p>If you can sway a lot of people and your word is trusted, there is a little slop. Yes, the person getting paid millions of dollars to plug basketball shoes can get a whole bunch of people to buy, but does it have anything to do with the shoes or the words he is saying. How much would the average no-name actor get paid?</p><p>That has to be a nice place to be though.</p><h3>Follow the Money Trail</h3><p>Like I said, that&#8217;s basically all you have to do. See who gets paid every step of the way and it doesn&#8217;t matter what the commission is, you will know when you are running around in a gerbil wheel for peanuts.</p><div
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